Post Info TOPIC: News 7: Does Hip Hop Degrade Women?
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Assignment: What do you think?  Consider the issues that this story introduces, such as 1) the portrayal of women in magazines, movies, billboards, music lyrics and videos, 2) the power of language in music lyrics to influence behavior in diverse cultural groups, 3) entertainment figures as role models for children and 4) whether American society as a whole still demeans women (or passively permits it). 

Evaluation: Students will receive up to 80 points when they provide a detailed answer explaining their position on the article.  Students will use other sources for research, such as http://www.mysistahs.org/features/hiphop.htm, http://www.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/Music/03/03/hip.hop/, http://www.femalehiphop.net/tool/index.php.  Students will receive 10 points for posting a comment, suggestion or question to another student and 10 points for a response to another student's post.

News Article: April 29, 2007 - CHICAGO - A panel discussion titled Does Hip-Hop Hate Women? drew more than 400 people Saturday a sign that the furor that erupted over Don Imus comments isnt over yet.  As Imus struggled in vain to keep his job earlier this month, he claimed that rappers routinely defame and demean black women and call them worse names than I ever did. That led to some music-industry navel-gazing, but too little action, some panelists at the University of Chicago said.


Some criticized music executives failing to make a strong statement against violent and demeaning language in mainstream rap music when they met earlier this month in New York.  Others blasted hip-hop mogul Russell Simmons for not doing enough when he called this week for the recording and broadcast industries to ban three words bitch, ho and ****** from all so-called clean versions of rap songs.  How is no one saying to Russell, Yo, we already bleep out those words? said Joan Morgan, an author and commentator on hip-hop and feminism.


Others at the event said hip-hop shouldnt be made a scapegoat for whats wrong in America.   We allow this language to go on, said Amina Norman-Hawkins, a Chicago hip-hop emcee and executive director of the Chicago Hip-Hop Initiative. As a community, we arent responsible for our children. So we dont teach our little boys how to grow up to be men and respect women. We allow them to learn from the street whats acceptable.  Some said Imus April 12 firing has provided a new opportunity to galvanize public opinion on the issue.


Sexism is too convenient within the black community for black men, said David Ikard, an assistant professor at the University of Tennessee. This issue of Imus came up and I asked the black men in my hip-hop course what were their stakes in it. They were like, Well, we dont really have any stakes in it. It seems trivial. He called on black men to do more to speak up for black women.



-- Edited by mre at 15:31, 2007-05-03

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Catherine

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What do you think? 
  I think that they do put women down and threat them like there nothing in the world. They make girls seem like the worse people around but most of it is for publisity but in real life some threat the women right and that there something in life then in videos and magazines they make they girls look like there just there for 1 thing. The way they seperate girls by color and the names they give to each color women is wrong and theres know need for it. The message that there sending out to children is that all women are bad and dirty so when they grow up they treat women like what they were brougth up and what they were learn to treat them and as they listen to this music the artist make it seem like its cool to treat women like that so as they grow up they think its cool to call girls names.I think that they should stop making girls seem so bad because the girls dont do it to the men and if we did the men would of felt the same way. biggrin  

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  Yes I do think that hip hop dies degrade women because sometimes when a rapper or singer rap/ sing about something it brings up the attention of what they have raped/ sing about. I think if the person ( auidence) has not thought about it , they only bring it to there attention. What im trying to say for exapmple is if a male raper was raping about a white women, and called her all kinds of names like sluts.hoes, and eazy and all these other things , alot of people follow on what celebrates say. because they think what there sining and raping about it coming from them and thats how they see it. So that how things really are. Other expample is one a famous rapper will bring someone down by calling them names or justing paying certain attention to a certain group of people , as for example if this certain rapper/singer only sings/rap about a certain nationallity . I also belive that hip hop degrades women because any of hip hop songs they are only talking BAD about women noting ever anything good to say about them.  This comes to the attention of many people when a rappper thinks a certain why of a women or describes as no good for notting they do go threw half the things we go threw (coming from a male rapper) for one they are not a women so they would not know what we go there. and there are not many women rappers but if they brought a man down in a song they would not like it because when they say women . girl, chick they mean all WOMEN!!!. SO yes i srtongly belive that hip hp disgrades women it brings us down real low. it shows a side that most women are not, and for men to talk about us like this they are selfish pigs. who know we are better then them so they call us names to bring women down. But o boy women are stronge.

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Heather Roy

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Yes, I think hip hop does degrade women-but I also think unfortunately our generation has gotten so use to hearing those names that we never really think about it being wrong. But the truth is, some women degrate themselves too. So if we degrate ourselves and each other, men are going to think it's fine-and they'll do it to.

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Catherine

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Women military rights

By the time a WAC graduated from basic, a women was well versed in all regulations and could almost quote them chapter and verse.  This was a big achievement considering that not only did we know Army Regulations, but we also had to know WAC regulations that many men didnt even know existed and yes, there was a complete separate set of regulations that governed particulars of women serving. These are some facts that women do things differently then men in the military and some of the stuff that women do men dont do so its unfare how they do things differently if its all equal in the US.

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shallyn Carreiro

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I do think that hip hop degrades women because all the top songs today are about   explicit lyrics that commonly suggest that women are not worth anything more than money, and calling women all sorts of names. These songs sometimes suggest that women are there property and violence is the disobedience of women. But not all rappers are like that, some rap about the hardship the faced in life. Most of the rappers today, The name calling disrespects, dishonors towards women is terrible. I understand that in videos and movies some women dont present themselves as they should, they were little clothing and bring negative attention to themselves but what people dont realize is that not all women are like that, So they shouldnt say those things about all women. Mostly everyone today listens to hiphop, theres different kinds of hip hop such as rappers that rap about things that matter and life. And then there those some that rap about women, sex, drugs and gangs. When people listen to these these lyrics they might be influenced because everyone wants to listen to the newest and coolest song and they want to be like that rapper, so they might take those lyrics to heart. Even women in the hip hop world who want to be rappers kind of degrade themselves because theyre still bring negative attention because they wear little clothing.

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Jamie Dias

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Yes i do think that hip hop degrades women.The reason i feel this way is because in MANY hip hop songs you hear the rapper singing about women and always putting them down saying money is better then women . For example Lil wayne in his song says "f*** B****** get money" and if that aint degraden women then i dont know what is !Also, what kind of example are they setting for kids when they talk bad about women they are telling kids women are not good people and when the kids grow up they'll believe that because thats what they learned in songs. When you watch music videos you always see a women dancing in the video like half naked. In songs rappers make fun of women calling them h*** and everythign else.I believe hip hop degrades women cause of all the name calling and how they act towards women and how they make them seem like property



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Valdir

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I guess hip-hop does degrade women to a certain extent. They obviously shouldnt be called the names that they are or be treated in such a manner. I guess the men should know better, but I dont truly think that the lyrics rightfully reflect the views of the individuals speaking into the mic. Most of it is said because it is what sells. You cant truly place culpability on the music industry for trying to make money, even if that conflicts ones morals at times. Still, it isnt right. But there is something wrong when women are dancing to the tunes that value them as much as dogs. What a world we live in, huh?   

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lexie wetzel

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I do believe that hip hop degrades women because of the way they portray them in the media. They make woman seem like nothing and we are human beings just like men. They shouldn't ever put anyone down regardless of how they look in a music video, photograph, or how they represent themself. Not all woman are the same and although some attract negative attention, there are many hardworking woman who do not want to hear themselves being called vulgar; unnecessary names.

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People are going to say "YES, HIP HOP DEGRADES WOMAN" and "YES, THE BLACK COMMUNITY DEGRADES WOMAN" but in all actuallity, they go home, put on the radio, and sing along to songs that have the sexist comments.  And they watch movies that degrade woman and they're okay with it because it's just a movie or it's just a song.  It's not just the black community that degrades woman because other ethnicities degrade woman as well, via middle eastern.  We'll say that it does degrade woman, but even most woman sing along and say "BITCH, HO, AND WHATEVERELSE" but yet woman are suposed to be mad about it..  the truth is, most of us aren't.  we like the music and most of the time we don't realize what we're listening to.  the beats good, the lyrics flow.  thats all that really matters. HIP HOP WONT CHANGE BECAUSE IT GOT SOMEONE MAD--IT'LL KEEP DOING IT SO THEY GET THEM MADDER



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Leslie

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Does hip-hop degrade women?
 
I do think that hip-hop definitely degrades women. All you hear is that women are basically just useful for one thing. Thats not true and I think that we should be given a lot more credit than what were given through these different songs. Also, its not just English rappers that do this because Spanish rappers do the same thing. The songs offend me and I know that Im not anything that the songs say about women. I think that a lot more attention should be given to whats being said and portrayed through these songs because even though we are old enough to know now to believe everything we hear kids all around us are constantly being influenced by this type of music. I know kids who go around calling other girls all the bad things that are being said in the songs that are out now in days. I think thats the saddest thing because little by little kids are making these thoughts a part of their life and are treating all women the way the music they hear tells them they should be treated. Women are not anybodys property but their own!! People need to get that through their heads. Hip-hop portrays this image that all women are the same. We are being penalized because of what a few people think of women and thats not fair to those women who are trying to do something with their lives. Like one of the sites states, the exploitation of women is becoming a part of life for both the artists that are mentioning it and the audiences who are listening to it. People think that its okay to say degrading and insulting things just because they hear it on the radio. The incident that occurred with that radio host is a perfect example of this. He said what he said and in an interview stated that in music those types of things and even worse things are constantly being said and nothing is said against it. He thought that it was justifiable for him to say what he said just because its something that is heard all over the radio. The girls that he was directing that statement to were completely appalled at the fact that he had the nerve to say something like that. But the truth is that if its heard all over the radio people are going to think that its okay to refer to women like that. I think that the women need to stand up for their dignity and say something against how we are being portrayed hip-hop.
We need to get our respect back!!!


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Valdir wrote:

I guess hip-hop does degrade women to a certain extent. They obviously shouldnt be called the names that they are or be treated in such a manner. I guess the men should know better, but I dont truly think that the lyrics rightfully reflect the views of the individuals speaking into the mic. Most of it is said because it is what sells. You cant truly place culpability on the music industry for trying to make money, even if that conflicts ones morals at times. Still, it isnt right. But there is something wrong when women are dancing to the tunes that value them as much as dogs. What a world we live in, huh?   




it's true.... but think about this... if those woman don't want to be treated like dogs then they wouldn't be dancing in those videos.. and for the people that dissagree with it.. all they can reallly do is change the channel because there is no way around it... they're protected by the constitution



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Leslie

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Catherine wrote:

What do you think? 
  I think that they do put women down and threat them like there nothing in the world. They make girls seem like the worse people around but most of it is for publisity but in real life some threat the women right and that there something in life then in videos and magazines they make they girls look like there just there for 1 thing. The way they seperate girls by color and the names they give to each color women is wrong and theres know need for it. The message that there sending out to children is that all women are bad and dirty so when they grow up they treat women like what they were brougth up and what they were learn to treat them and as they listen to this music the artist make it seem like its cool to treat women like that so as they grow up they think its cool to call girls names.I think that they should stop making girls seem so bad because the girls dont do it to the men and if we did the men would of felt the same way. biggrin  



I agree with you completely. they put out the wrong message about women and are slowly influencing the newer generation to have the same mindset and treat all women the same way. Do you think that there is a way for that to be changed, not just in  music but in televesion, video games, movies? Do you think that something to be said to bring this issue to the light and to the attention of the people that are actually doing it? I'm sorry, i know i ask a lot of questions!!!!biggrin



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Leslie

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NESSAa wrote:

Valdir wrote:

I guess hip-hop does degrade women to a certain extent. They obviously shouldnt be called the names that they are or be treated in such a manner. I guess the men should know better, but I dont truly think that the lyrics rightfully reflect the views of the individuals speaking into the mic. Most of it is said because it is what sells. You cant truly place culpability on the music industry for trying to make money, even if that conflicts ones morals at times. Still, it isnt right. But there is something wrong when women are dancing to the tunes that value them as much as dogs. What a world we live in, huh?   




it's true.... but think about this... if those woman don't want to be treated like dogs then they wouldn't be dancing in those videos.. and for the people that dissagree with it.. all they can reallly do is change the channel because there is no way around it... they're protected by the constitution



Vanessa, i agree with you completely!! Women supposedly get offended by what's being said about them but yet they are the ones that are in the video and are promoting the idea that they don't care about what's being said about them. I didn't really think about that point of the matter. Good point!!!!biggrin



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nathan

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i do think that hip-hop degrades women to a certain extent. how can it be degrading when the women that think that their being degraded are sayin the same comments that they hear on the songs. They even sing along with the songs, so how can that be degrading. When the rapper says something about these women, its the women that degrade themselves.

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MIKE JONES

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I belive Hip hop music degrades woman who act like they are trash. So if certain women wanted to be depicted in a certain way they would carry themselves respectfuly. For years Girls have been wearing lil skimmpy outfitz shaking there tailfeather and gettin there eagle onbiggrin , on television in music videos. then women get madd because rappers such as Snoop Dogg Call them "Ho's". So if you dont wanan be portyaed as Ho's or Chickenheads clean ur act up.



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Heather Roy

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Leslie wrote:

Does hip-hop degrade women?
 
I do think that hip-hop definitely degrades women. All you hear is that women are basically just useful for one thing. Thats not true and I think that we should be given a lot more credit than what were given through these different songs. Also, its not just English rappers that do this because Spanish rappers do the same thing. The songs offend me and I know that Im not anything that the songs say about women. I think that a lot more attention should be given to whats being said and portrayed through these songs because even though we are old enough to know now to believe everything we hear kids all around us are constantly being influenced by this type of music. I know kids who go around calling other girls all the bad things that are being said in the songs that are out now in days. I think thats the saddest thing because little by little kids are making these thoughts a part of their life and are treating all women the way the music they hear tells them they should be treated. Women are not anybodys property but their own!! People need to get that through their heads. Hip-hop portrays this image that all women are the same. We are being penalized because of what a few people think of women and thats not fair to those women who are trying to do something with their lives. Like one of the sites states, the exploitation of women is becoming a part of life for both the artists that are mentioning it and the audiences who are listening to it. People think that its okay to say degrading and insulting things just because they hear it on the radio. The incident that occurred with that radio host is a perfect example of this. He said what he said and in an interview stated that in music those types of things and even worse things are constantly being said and nothing is said against it. He thought that it was justifiable for him to say what he said just because its something that is heard all over the radio. The girls that he was directing that statement to were completely appalled at the fact that he had the nerve to say something like that. But the truth is that if its heard all over the radio people are going to think that its okay to refer to women like that. I think that the women need to stand up for their dignity and say something against how we are being portrayed hip-hop.
We need to get our respect back!!!



          I definately agree with you. The worst part is its kind of like a cycle. Children hear this on the radio and they do start to think its okay to refer to women in that type of way, and it's definately not okay. Do you think it will ever change?



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Donald V

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Hip-Hop dosen't degrade women they degrade them selves i asked some very strong women the other day do they think hip-hop degrades women they said no as long as they arent talking to me i said thats cool they think the women derade their selves and if a woman knows she isn't nasty then she shouldn't be worried just dont be a ho.

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Valdir

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I agree.



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Valdir

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Valdir wrote:

I agree.




I apologize, I meant to Vanessa's response to my post.



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Masonnn

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I think that whole thing with the Imus guy is bologna.  I mean, he's a radio comedian who makes rude jokes about everyone doesn't he? So why out of everything that he says they have to pick out one thing and use it against him. I just think it's stupid, but I really don't know who the guy was, so maybe it wasn't.  But I think that rap, does in a way, degrade women.  I mean, in most of the videos and stuff there are like half naked women dancing and stuff, and I realize it's just a video, but come on.  You have to be 18-21 to go to a strip club, why not just turn your television to MTV and watch it?  Some people think that strip clubs are degrading to women too.  I don't think that it is the rap itself that is degrading, because music is art, but I think that it's what is in the videos for the music that is degrading.

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MASON

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lexie wetzel wrote:

I do believe that hip hop degrades women because of the way they portray them in the media. They make woman seem like nothing and we are human beings just like men. They shouldn't ever put anyone down regardless of how they look in a music video, photograph, or how they represent themself. Not all woman are the same and although some attract negative attention, there are many hardworking woman who do not want to hear themselves being called vulgar; unnecessary names.



I agree, I mean, if I was a girl I would be disgusted by some of the stuff I see on TV and in magazines.  Hip-hop kind of uses the women's sexualness to sell their stuff.


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mason

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NESSAa wrote:

Valdir wrote:

I guess hip-hop does degrade women to a certain extent. They obviously shouldnt be called the names that they are or be treated in such a manner. I guess the men should know better, but I dont truly think that the lyrics rightfully reflect the views of the individuals speaking into the mic. Most of it is said because it is what sells. You cant truly place culpability on the music industry for trying to make money, even if that conflicts ones morals at times. Still, it isnt right. But there is something wrong when women are dancing to the tunes that value them as much as dogs. What a world we live in, huh?   




it's true.... but think about this... if those woman don't want to be treated like dogs then they wouldn't be dancing in those videos.. and for the people that dissagree with it.. all they can reallly do is change the channel because there is no way around it... they're protected by the constitution



some girls don't plan on dancing in videos, but some of them are actors and its the only thing that they can get into to try to get noticed because acting isn't a very easy career to get into.



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Jerome Hardy

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Hip Hip degrades only the woman who are in the music videos. If money is more important than self-reflection than I guess they don't mind being degraded. Either that or they don't realize what kind of image they are putting out towards theirself. I don't believe hip hop is putting out any stereotype on women. Unless any one is calling you a certain name because of the rap they listen to then there is no reason for you to get offended.



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Mikey D.

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I deffiently believe hip-hop degrades women,but this isn't always true.I've heard alot of songs that talked positive about women and how a certain girl changed their life,how beautiful she is,and how he can't live without her these lyrics are uplifting to a woman's ears and shouldn't make her feel degraded. But alot rappers also tend to make a girl feel worthless,something like a disposable pleasure.

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I belive Hip hop music degrades woman in some ways. When rappers talk about girls only being good for one thing.. that aint true. We are worth a lot more than that. If it wasn't for woman their a**es wouldn't even be here so they better recognize! We are human beings just like men. Men are pigs, and thats the truth. They will say anything to draw peoples attention, and make money off of it. Its all publicity. We all know Not all woman are h**s. You know if your a h** or not.  Its all about how you present and carry yourself . I mean if your gunna be half naked in their music videos actin like a h** , shakin your a** wearing daisy dukes, then obviously your gunna be called one. Im NOT offended at all becuase i know they aint talkin to me like that, and i aint gotta worry about that because i know im not one. I sing along with that stuff because i actually think its kinda funny, because most of the things they rhyme about is true. ( Nas,Jadakiss,&Lil wayne etc.) Their real. But anyways..if anything women degrades themselves, and if you know you aint dirty then you aint got nothin to worry about.


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i feel as though women subject themseles to the names they are called by how they act and how they be trifflin all teh time but then again i guess women don;'t deserve that and they should not be called out thier names in any situation.

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Mikey D.

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Jerome Hardy wrote:

Hip Hip degrades only the woman who are in the music videos. If money is more important than self-reflection than I guess they don't mind being degraded. Either that or they don't realize what kind of image they are putting out towards theirself. I don't believe hip hop is putting out any stereotype on women. Unless any one is calling you a certain name because of the rap they listen to then there is no reason for you to get offended.



Hip hop itself is not a video,therefore, it's more than just the girls in the video woh may feel degraded.Avtually, it's possible for the girls sitting at home watching the video to feel degraded from seeing their own gender stripping and doing bad things on tv as if that's the cool thing to do.Further more, hip-hop can degrade women just from the lyrics itself, a video or being in one isn't the only thing that makes females feel degraded.



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JAIMIE

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nathan wrote:

i do think that hip-hop degrades women to a certain extent. how can it be degrading when the women that think that their being degraded are sayin the same comments that they hear on the songs. They even sing along with the songs, so how can that be degrading. When the rapper says something about these women, its the women that degrade themselves.










NO MATTER WHAT IT STILL DEGRADES THEM IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER

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mason

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jaimie wrote:

i feel as though women subject themseles to the names they are called by how they act and how they be trifflin all teh time but then again i guess women don;'t deserve that and they should not be called out thier names in any situation.




can you please tell me what trifflin is cuz i honestly have no idea. lol confused



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shallyn

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nessaA wrote:

People are going to say "YES, HIP HOP DEGRADES WOMAN" and "YES, THE BLACK COMMUNITY DEGRADES WOMAN" but in all actuallity, they go home, put on the radio, and sing along to songs that have the sexist comments.  And they watch movies that degrade woman and they're okay with it because it's just a movie or it's just a song.  It's not just the black community that degrades woman because other ethnicities degrade woman as well, via middle eastern.  We'll say that it does degrade woman, but even most woman sing along and say "BITCH, HO, AND WHATEVERELSE" but yet woman are suposed to be mad about it..  the truth is, most of us aren't.  we like the music and most of the time we don't realize what we're listening to.  the beats good, the lyrics flow.  thats all that really matters. HIP HOP WONT CHANGE BECAUSE IT GOT SOMEONE MAD--IT'LL KEEP DOING IT SO THEY GET THEM MADDER



i definitely agree w/ you Vannessa,Hip Hop wont change, and we do go home and sing along to these songs but then we talk bad about it you pointed out a very good point!biggrin.gif



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Amanda

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Some of things said in hip hop songs are degrading to women, but it isnt just hip hop, plenty of genres have lyrics that put women down in some way. I don't think people should just attack hip hop as if it is the only genre that degrades women, the entire music industry is guilty of this. The thing is though that if degrading lyrics didnt sell then there would be no reason for them to be there, so if people want to complain about how offended they are by the music then they shouldnt buy into it. A lot of people try to say that one way that hip hop degrades women is how they are depicted in music videos, no one is forcing these women into the videos, its their choice. Some people try to use the argument that for a female to be anything in hip hop is to be in the videos, as if the only way for a female to get attention in hip hop is through dancing in music videos, but there are female rappers who have gotten a lot of attention and have been very successful in hip hop. I dont think the problem is just in hip hop, I think its society, too many people will sit around and talk about how offended they are by something but then they buy into it just as much. Another thing that I have never understood is how its demeaning for a man to talk about women in a certain way, but if a woman said the same things about a man, people would consider that empowering, sexism goes both ways.

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The junk that they put on TV is not hip hop, the  money making and ho dancing video girls, thats NOT HIP HOP. Hip hop is an art form that includes deejaying [cuttin & scartchin] emceeing/rappin/ Break dancing and graffiti art. Some people who represent Hip Hop is Common, Erykah Badu, Run DMC, John legend and etc. Fat Joe, 50 Cent, Young Joc, Lil Kim, Lil Jon and the Eastside Boys, they all do NOT represent Hip Hop. Most people believe that they do, when they dont. Hip Hop was been twisted around by many people in the sense that they believe what MTV shows is Hip Hop. So do I believe that HIP HOP degrades women, NO I DO NOT.  But do I believe that the junk on TV degrades women, YES I DO.



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J.Hic

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shallyn wrote:

nessaA wrote:

People are going to say "YES, HIP HOP DEGRADES WOMAN" and "YES, THE BLACK COMMUNITY DEGRADES WOMAN" but in all actuallity, they go home, put on the radio, and sing along to songs that have the sexist comments.  And they watch movies that degrade woman and they're okay with it because it's just a movie or it's just a song.  It's not just the black community that degrades woman because other ethnicities degrade woman as well, via middle eastern.  We'll say that it does degrade woman, but even most woman sing along and say "BITCH, HO, AND WHATEVERELSE" but yet woman are suposed to be mad about it..  the truth is, most of us aren't.  we like the music and most of the time we don't realize what we're listening to.  the beats good, the lyrics flow.  thats all that really matters. HIP HOP WONT CHANGE BECAUSE IT GOT SOMEONE MAD--IT'LL KEEP DOING IT SO THEY GET THEM MADDER



i definitely agree w/ you Vannessa,Hip Hop wont change, and we do go home and sing along to these songs but then we talk bad about it you pointed out a very good point!biggrin.gif




Hip Hop is not what everyone thinks it is. Hip hop is a beautiful thing. The Hip Hop community comes together in a movement to do positive events and set a positive outlook. Hip Hop does not degrade African- American people nor Caucasians or any other race. Real Hip Hop is in many cases not what you see on TV and hear on the radio. What people see and hear is commercialized Hip Hop and that to me is junk.



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updated - 5/7/08

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ash days

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hip hop  DOES degrate women. and women degrate themselves. if women didnt do the things they do, wrappers wouldnt bve able to degrate women because  there would be no exserience with women degrating themselves. so they wouldnt sing about it.
and also, poeple will always sing things regaurdless on what or who they hurt.



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ash days

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Jamie Dias wrote:

Yes i do think that hip hop degrades women.The reason i feel this way is because in MANY hip hop songs you hear the rapper singing about women and always putting them down saying money is better then women . For example Lil wayne in his song says "f*** B****** get money" and if that aint degraden women then i dont know what is !Also, what kind of example are they setting for kids when they talk bad about women they are telling kids women are not good people and when the kids grow up they'll believe that because thats what they learned in songs. When you watch music videos you always see a women dancing in the video like half naked. In songs rappers make fun of women calling them h*** and everythign else.I believe hip hop degrades women cause of all the name calling and how they act towards women and how they make them seem like property







if you think that song degrates women.. why is he ur favorite wrapper?
why listen to it? because it makes money. it sellls.   and they dont care if there degratingwomen. as long as the record sells.

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ASHLEY REGO WROTE: 

i belive Hip hop music degrades woman in some ways. When rappers talk about girls only being good for one thing.. that aint true. We are worth a lot more than that. If it wasn't for woman their a**es wouldn't even be here so they better recognize! We are human beings just like men.
Men are pigs, and thats the truth. They will say anything to draw peoples attention, and make money off of it. Its all publicity. We all know Not all woman are h**s. You know if your a h** or not.  Its all about how you present and carry yourself . I mean if your gunna be half naked in their music videos actin like a h** , shakin your a** wearing daisy dukes, then obviously your gunna be called one. Im NOT offended
 at all becuase i know they aint talkin to me like that, and i aint gotta worry about that because i know im not one. I sing along with that stuff because i actually think its kinda funny, because most of the things they rhyme about is true. ( Nas,Jadakiss,&Lil wayne etc.) Their real. But anyways..if anything women degrades themselves, and if you know you aint dirty then you aint got nothin to worry about.


I think she made a good point but the men she calls pigs that are saying any thing for money and attention disgust her but the women in the videos are doing the same for money can you see the truth i can.

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In a way I feel that some forms of hip hop degrade women.  There is no reason for any woman to be called out her name.  However, to the contrary of that, women put themselves in the position to be degraded.  Most women in the music videos, magazines and billboards have no clothes on and dance around in inappropriate, exotic ways.  They also do whatever the men ask them to do in order to get ahead.  Therefore, the women in a way are degrading themselves.  No one is going to have respect for you if you dont respect yourself.  I also feel that a lot of rap lyrics are misunderstood and a lot of it is just entertainment.  If you dont like it, then dont listen to it.

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I strongly agree with you Jamie, the things you've stated are true. Good work!!!!

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ash days wrote:

hip hop DOES degrate women. and women degrate themselves. if women didnt do the things they do, wrappers wouldnt bve able to degrate women because there would be no exserience with women degrating themselves. so they wouldnt sing about it.
and also, poeple will always sing things regaurdless on what or who they hurt.





I agree, if women find hip hop or any other music to be degrading then they shouldn't buy into it because then they are just part of the stereotype that much of this music creates.

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