World War II Project - Mr. E's Forum: 2006-2007

Date: Mar 13, 2007

World War II Project

Date: Mar 14, 2007

I choose Number 2. D-Day and Number 3. The Battle of the Bulge

so i got #2 and #3

Date: Mar 14, 2007

oohlala, mr.e, silly, you were in class today.
you're not going to be in class tomorrow ?
NO QUIZ?
hmmm... awwwww :(

i pick auschwitz and fly girls (4 & 6)

curt, do you live on the apush website? geeeez

Date: Mar 14, 2007

CRYSTAL wrote:

oohlala, mr.e, silly, you were in class today.
you're not going to be in class tomorrow ?
NO QUIZ?
hmmm... awwwww :(

i pick auschwitz and fly girls (4 & 6)

curt, do you live on the apush website? geeeez

Nahh just got out of kickboxing and realized had nothign to do and thought i bet mr. e. would post an assignment on this topic since he was edgy about it in class. and i was right.

Date: Mar 14, 2007

C.Santos wrote:

Nahh just got out of kickboxing and realized had nothign to do and thought i bet mr. e. would post an assignment on this topic since he was edgy about it in class. and i was right.

mhm, i bet. just like mr.ev, it's probably your home page. jaykayyyy

Date: Mar 14, 2007

CRYSTAL wrote:

oohlala, mr.e, silly, you were in class today.
you're not going to be in class tomorrow ?
NO QUIZ?
hmmm... awwwww :(

Hey, who says you can't have a quiz without a teacher?
But no, you're right. I hereby declare a one-day quiz delay.

Date: Mar 14, 2007

I got #5 Japanese Internment - Children of the Camps
and #7Enigma – Decoding NAZI Secrets

Date: Mar 14, 2007

CRYSTAL wrote:

C.Santos wrote:

Nahh just got out of kickboxing and realized had nothign to do and thought i bet mr. e. would post an assignment on this topic since he was edgy about it in class. and i was right.

mhm, i bet. just like mr.ev, it's probably your home page. jaykayyyy

Portugal may have remained neutral in WW2 but this ^^^ means war.

Date: Mar 14, 2007

4 & 5

Date: Mar 14, 2007

I will be doing #3, “Battle of the Bulge” and #4, “Fly Girls"

Date: Mar 14, 2007

My two topics are: 4. Fly Girls and 9. The Perilous Fight

Date: Mar 14, 2007

I choose to do 7 and 8 (Nazi Prison Escape and Enigma)

Date: Mar 14, 2007

i pick 7 and im not sure about my second choice.

Date: Mar 14, 2007

Okay, 5. and 9. then

Date: Mar 14, 2007

i have decided to pick 7 and 9.

Date: Mar 14, 2007

I'll do #2 and #8.

Date: Mar 14, 2007

My choices are #10 “They Drew Fire” and #2 “D-Day.”

Date: Mar 14, 2007

#2 and #6

Date: Mar 14, 2007

#2 is capped

Date: Mar 14, 2007

6 & 10

Date: Mar 14, 2007

Instead i'll do #2 and #6.

Date: Mar 14, 2007

I choose # 1 for one of them

Date: Mar 14, 2007

mr.everrett,
the auschwitz site takes meto "super bomb"

....i don't get it

Date: Mar 14, 2007

1 & 3 i guess

Date: Mar 14, 2007

I got number 10 for my other one

Date: Mar 14, 2007

5. Children of the Camps

During WWII, American children with Japanese ancestors were sent to internment camps by the U.S. government. President Roosevelt issued Executive Order 9066, to protect American citizens in national defense. He did this after the attack on Pearl Harbor. Those people with Japanese ancestry, even though they were American citizens, were excluded from certain areas. About 120,000 people were imprisoned in these camps. These people were imprisoned for up to 4 years, and half of them were children. Some families were broken up and put into separate camps. These people were not granted due process of the law either. The historical significance of this was that the attack on Pearl Harbor created prejudice against the Japanese. People started assuming that every Japanese person in the United States was going to betray the U.S. This caused the government to even ignore the Constitution because the Japanese citizens were not granted fair trials – they were just taken to the camps. This can be compared to the 911 attack and how Americans began to fear and jump to conclusions about every Muslim in the United States.

Date: Mar 14, 2007

I got 7 and 9

Date: Mar 14, 2007

My choices are #10 “They Drew Fire” and #2 “D-Day.”

Artists who depicted WWII while it was going on provide vital insight for all future generations. Their works can show those who know very little of war what it’s really like, as well as (possibly) provide inspiration for future soldiers.

D-Day was a turning point for the American forces and other Allies. Not only had the Americans “faked-out” a portion of the enemies with their phony army, but the massive amphibian assault overwhelmed the remaining forces (despite great losses) and eventually led to the fall of the Axis’ powers (sp? gm?). This somewhat desperate move (on America’s part) turned out worthwhile.

Date: Mar 14, 2007

S.Bailey

For my two topics, I chose numbers three and five. I chose these topics because I found them to be of the more interesting assignments. Three is about the Battle of the Bulge, and the battle plans. It requires you to describe the battle plans. Number five is about a Japanese child writing to her father in the American army about life in the detention camps. They are both very interesting topics, and that’s why I chose them.

Date: Mar 14, 2007

I would like you to post your choices and explain to me the historical significance of your two topics (in a brief paragraph) researched from the sites you have chosen.

The Battle of the Bulge was a huge turning point in WWII. It began when Hitler (Germany) and Stalin (Russia) promise not to attack each other. They make this negotiation to secretly plan to divide Poland. Poland was completely unprepared for the attack. World War II begins after Britain and France declare war on Germany. In 1942, Germany began to attack the Russian city of Stalingrad, despite Russia’s negotiation with Germany before attacking Poland. The German’s capture the city and fight for six months. It was a blood bath of a battle. Hitler did not prepare his troops for the cold winter and Russia was held within the city with no incoming food or supplies for months. As a result, 2,000,000 Russians were killed… Almost the entire city, and hundreds of thousands of Nazis died. However, the Russians defeated Hitler’s troops… serving as a huge turning point in which the Germans were now retreating out of certain parts of Europe. (They were no longer winning all the battles)

The Fly Girls were women who helped in building and flying planes across the oceans, straight into WWII battles to supply the troops with planes. This was significant because it gave women a different reputation… They were no longer artistic and refined but could perform tasks as well as men. They often had to fight discrimination and prejudice to have leadership role in the air force. However, they eventually got the recognition and appreciation they deserved… as strong, American women aviators. These women risked their lives on behalf of their country… 38 women died in service.

Date: Mar 14, 2007

CRYSTAL wrote:

mr.everrett,
the auschwitz site takes meto "super bomb"

....i don't get it

Good morning! I don't understand your question either.

Date: Mar 14, 2007

The historical significance of my two topics is that they hold a large part in how we do things today. One of my topics is World War II in color, its series of dramatic, informative and interesting photographs that were taken during WWII. My second topic is about decoding NAZI secrets with the use of the enigma. The enigma looks like a German typewriter with the same similar set up. Once the enigma was figured out it uncovered a whole new part of WWII. With the understanding of the enigma it possibly took off 2 or 3 years from the war.

I hate the forum, I'm sorry but I really do.

Date: Mar 14, 2007

Tanya wrote:

5. Children of the Camps
During WWII, American children with Japanese ancestors were sent to internment camps by the U.S. government. President Roosevelt issued Executive Order 9066, to protect American citizens in national defense. He did this after the attack on Pearl Harbor. Those people with Japanese ancestry, even though they were American citizens, were excluded from certain areas. About 120,000 people were imprisoned in these camps. These people were imprisoned for up to 4 years, and half of them were children. Some families were broken up and put into separate camps. These people were not granted due process of the law either. The historical significance of this was that the attack on Pearl Harbor created prejudice against the Japanese. People started assuming that every Japanese person in the United States was going to betray the U.S. This caused the government to even ignore the Constitution because the Japanese citizens were not granted fair trials – they were just taken to the camps. This can be compared to the 911 attack and how Americans began to fear and jump to conclusions about every Muslim in the United States.

Excellent, Tanya. Yes, you're right. It was by far the largest violation of civil rights (with the exception of over 100 years of institutional racism against African Americans) in the country's history.

Date: Mar 14, 2007

Alex Z. wrote:

My choices are #10 “They Drew Fire” and #2 “D-Day.”

Artists who depicted WWII while it was going on provide vital insight for all future generations. Their works can show those who know very little of war what it’s really like, as well as (possibly) provide inspiration for future soldiers.
D-Day was a turning point for the American forces and other Allies. Not only had the Americans “faked-out” a portion of the enemies with their phony army, but the massive amphibian assault overwhelmed the remaining forces (despite great losses) and eventually led to the fall of the Axis’ powers (sp? gm?). This somewhat desperate move (on America’s part) turned out worthwhile.

Thanks Alex Z. Consider also that art is an interpretation of events and issues through the eyes of the artist. Generally, it represents themes and motifs concerning human society and human nature. On the part of D-Day, it's also important to note that Stalin had been begging for an attack on the western front to relieve pressure off of the Stalingrad and Leningrad battles. Churchill and Roosevelt waited almost two years before they attacked NAZI controlled Europe.

Date: Mar 14, 2007

s.bailey wrote:

S.Bailey

For my two topics, I chose numbers three and five. I chose these topics because I found them to be of the more interesting assignments. Three is about the Battle of the Bulge, and the battle plans. It requires you to describe the battle plans. Number five is about a Japanese child writing to her father in the American army about life in the detention camps. They are both very interesting topics, and that’s why I chose them.

Samantha, add more detail concerning the historic significance of your topics, not just a brief description of what they are, ok?

Date: Mar 14, 2007

9. The Perilous Fight: World War II in Color

WWII was the first war to be recorded in color film. Every other war was recorded in just black and white. Color allows people to view the scene more accurately. They are able to see what everything actually looked like, rather than imagining what the color of everything was. Color helps put people at the place in the picture/film. They are able to connect more with that time period since they are able to visualize it more clearly.

Date: Mar 14, 2007

World War II

6. Auschwitz-

Auschwitz is one of the most famous concentration camps during the Nazi invasion of Europe. It was also one of the harshest. It lasted 5 years and was the site of the single largest mass murder in the history of humanity. Over six million people ended up being exterminated. Adolf Hitler was the main person in charge of this operation, but Germany’s defeat did not lead right to Hitler. There were leaders before him that also had the same ideas. He used his power in office as chancellor of Germany to use his own plans and to promote his so-called racial purification.

10. They Drew Fire-

This website talks about the different views of people during the war. Many of the soldiers became artists known as “combat artists”. Over 12,000 pictures were drawn of the war alone or even a picture of the feelings that the soldiers had going through their minds. There have also been biographies written or recorded about these soldiers. Many of these pictures have actually been hidden from the public eye since the war. There are hundreds to thousands of museums with these pictures on display.

Date: Mar 14, 2007

7. The Enigma machine was used during World War 2 by the Germans to send encoded messages to the German armies and navies. The Allies were able to decode many of these messages and used the secret information to strike back against the Axis powers. It is commonly believed that the decoding of these messages shorted the war by two years at least.

9. It is said that a pictures are worth a thousand words. Due to this it makes sense that the government was tried to make sure that people only saw the pictures that were good for the war effort. This process has been done forever in different ways, whether it is stopping stories or holding secret information.

Date: Mar 14, 2007

Kathryn wrote:

I would like you to post your choices and explain to me the historical significance of your two topics (in a brief paragraph) researched from the sites you have chosen.

The Battle of the Bulge was a huge turning point in WWII. It began when Hitler (Germany) and Stalin (Russia) promise not to attack each other. They make this negotiation to secretly plan to divide Poland. Poland was completely unprepared for the attack. World War II begins after Britain and France declare war on Germany. In 1942, Germany began to attack the Russian city of Stalingrad, despite Russia’s negotiation with Germany before attacking Poland. The German’s capture the city and fight for six months. It was a blood bath of a battle. Hitler did not prepare his troops for the cold winter and Russia was held within the city with no incoming food or supplies for months. As a result, 2,000,000 Russians were killed… Almost the entire city, and hundreds of thousands of Nazis died. However, the Russians defeated Hitler’s troops… serving as a huge turning point in which the Germans were now retreating out of certain parts of Europe. (They were no longer winning all the battles)

The Fly Girls were women who helped in building and flying planes across the oceans, straight into WWII battles to supply the troops with planes. This was significant because it gave women a different reputation… They were no longer artistic and refined but could perform tasks as well as men. They often had to fight discrimination and prejudice to have leadership role in the air force. However, they eventually got the recognition and appreciation they deserved… as strong, American women aviators. These women risked their lives on behalf of their country… 38 women died in service.

Kathryn, thanks but the Battle of the Bulge was in the end of 1944, and so a LOT of events happened in between. This was one battle among hundreds in Europe, but think of what impact it had then, not just what led up to it. Thanks. On the Fly Girls, you did a great job explaining the gender roles women were moving into. Although WW2 did cause the employment of more women, the numbers were gradually rising on their own before the war (with the exception of the depression). After the war, more women would enter the workforce, although the factory women would be told to leave (fired) so that a 'man' could have his job back. More women went into secretary, teacher and nurse positions from 1945 until the 1960's.

Date: Mar 14, 2007

My choices are on D-Day and the Battle of the Bulge.

2. D-day was the first major alliance assault on the Axis powers in western Europe. The Allied Powers devised a plot for the Soviets to attack from the east and the British-American Forces would attack from northern France in a place called Normandy. The Alliance made a fake army farther North of the original location and while the German bombers and tanks went to the area of the fake army the real army stormed the beaches of France with long boats filled with men, tanks and other war things. This attack would give the Allies a base to attack the Germans and later allow us to defeat the Germans in their own territory.

3. The Battle of the Bulge started when a flank of our own army was trapped within enemy lines. The Germans asked our forces to surrender and the men didnt wish to. They ended up trapped and held hostage by the enemy. The Allies decided that they had to save the men. The forces led by Eisenhower (a future president) led the attack to escue the troops. They marched all the way up to Germany in some cases from Italy and managed to resuce the entire infanty of soilders. The battle was significant because it led to the attack on Berlin and the eventual suicide of Hitler.

Date: Mar 14, 2007

Tanya wrote:

9. The Perilous Fight: World War II in Color
WWII was the first war to be recorded in color film. Every other war was recorded in just black and white. Color allows people to view the scene more accurately. They are able to see what everything actually looked like, rather than imagining what the color of everything was. Color helps put people at the place in the picture/film. They are able to connect more with that time period since they are able to visualize it more clearly.

Tanya, that site is a little tricky to navigate. Let me know if you have any problems. The pictures themselves are buried within a couple of layers of clicks.

Date: Mar 14, 2007

Julia Greene wrote:

World War II

6. Auschwitz-

            Auschwitz is one of the most famous concentration camps during the Nazi invasion of Europe. It was also one of the harshest. It lasted 5 years and was the site of the single largest mass murder in the history of humanity. Over six million people ended up being exterminated. Adolf Hitler was the main person in charge of this operation, but Germany’s defeat did not lead right to Hitler. There were leaders before him that also had the same ideas. He used his power in office as chancellor of Germany to use his own plans and to promote his so-called racial purification.

10. They Drew Fire-

This website talks about the different views of people during the war. Many of the soldiers became artists known as “combat artists”. Over 12,000 pictures were drawn of the war alone or even a picture of the feelings that the soldiers had going through their minds. There have also been biographies written or recorded about these soldiers. Many of these pictures have actually been hidden from the public eye since the war. There are hundreds to thousands of museums with these pictures on display.

Julia, you captured the historic significance with the first topic but not with the second. You described what the website did as far as portraying art on WW2 was concerned, but not why it was historically important that they did so. Can you add that in? Thanks.

Date: Mar 14, 2007

hey Mr. E, just to let you know
the link under the Auschwitz topic brings you to a site about the Atom Bomb.

Date: Mar 14, 2007

Jarred wrote:

7. The Enigma machine was used during World War 2 by the Germans to send encoded messages to the German armies and navies. The Allies were able to decode many of these messages and used the secret information to strike back against the Axis powers. It is commonly believed that the decoding of these messages shorted the war by two years at least.
9. It is said that a pictures are worth a thousand words. Due to this it makes sense that the government was tried to make sure that people only saw the pictures that were good for the war effort. This process has been done forever in different ways, whether it is stopping stories or holding secret information.

Jarred, you mention information which is available on the site very briefly, but you don't explain the historical significance of each of your topics. Explain each in context. How did decoding German signals affect specific battles? What influence did artists have on propaganda? What kind of propaganda was portrayed (pro or anti-war)?

Date: Mar 14, 2007

sarah wrote:

hey Mr. E, just to let you know
the link under the Auschwitz topic brings you to a site about the Atom Bomb.

Ah. Is that what Crystal was saying? I'll fix it.

Date: Mar 14, 2007

1. BBC WWII.This topic tells of the tragedies and honor of the war. It caused people to be hurt, dead, or proud of their country. The whole war has to be summarized. The good and the bad parts of the war are going to be addressed by a war veteran.

3. The Battle of the Bulge.This was the bloodiest battle ever in American history. The notes of General Patton are to be explained to a unit of Army commanders about how to rescue American troops that have been captured by Germans. Patton’s expertise in tank command greatly helped American troops. Also, their unique strategy played an important role in the war.

Date: Mar 14, 2007

so we were looking at the pictures you have on the blackboard, and we decided that they are very strange. We do not get them , and we find them to be very wierd. What is with these pictures Mr.E? (however, we do like the one with the pen in the flower)

Date: Mar 14, 2007

My two choices are:

Auschwitz: Inside the NAZI State
NAZI Prison Escape

The historical significance of both of these topics is that many people died as a result of the Holocaust during World War II. In Auschwitz was the one site where more people died than the British and the American militarily during the entire war. The constant crimes and murders of the Jewish people gave a good idea of what was actually going on during the entire war. Many Jews died as a result of the hate crimes that were done by the Germans. It was significant because during the entire war this was going on and was happening to the Jewish people.

The NAZI prison escapes were very significant during the time of the war. Many men were able to escape the prison, approximately 300 men. The Colditz Castle, which was supposed to be the most escape-proof prison of all was actually the prison where those 300 men were able to escape from. During the beginning of the war, it said that 130 men were able to escape the prison but only 30 successfully got over frontier. It was significant because there was this one man named Reinhold Eggers who was actually a German officer who tried to help those men escape the prison successfully. It showed that there were those Germans who were actually trying to do good and trying to help out those that were imprisoned in that prison. It showed another side to the German story during the World War II.

Date: Mar 14, 2007

s.bailey & AtotheZ wrote:

so we were looking at the pictures you have on the blackboard, and we decided that they are very strange. We do not get them , and we find them to be very wierd. What is with these pictures Mr.E? (however, we do like the one with the pen in the flower)

They are by Dave McKean http://www.mckean-art.co.uk/ and he is super cool. The pictures are covers of one of my favorite comic books, called the Sandman by Neil Gaiman http://www.neilgaiman.com/ and they represent dreams...

Now, how about those topics, Samantha?

Date: Mar 14, 2007

C.Santos wrote:

My choices are on D-Day and the Battle of the Bulge.

2. D-day was the first major alliance assault on the Axis powers in western Europe. The Allied Powers devised a plot for the Soviets to attack from the east and the British-American Forces would attack from northern France in a place called Normandy. The Alliance made a fake army farther North of the original location and while the German bombers and tanks went to the area of the fake army the real army stormed the beaches of France with long boats filled with men, tanks and other war things. This attack would give the Allies a base to attack the Germans and later allow us to defeat the Germans in their own territory.

3. The Battle of the Bulge started when a flank of our own army was trapped within enemy lines. The Germans asked our forces to surrender and the men didnt wish to. They ended up trapped and held hostage by the enemy. The Allies decided that they had to save the men. The forces led by Eisenhower (a future president) led the attack to escue the troops. They marched all the way up to Germany in some cases from Italy and managed to resuce the entire infanty of soilders. The battle was significant because it led to the attack on Berlin and the eventual suicide of Hitler.

Curt, you describe what happened but don't emphasize why they were important. Also, it was Patton who led the rescue, not Ike.