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Crystal

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10. Provide more material on the “five civilized tribes,” particularly the Cherokees, and discuss their fate during and after the “Trail of Tears.”


The “five civilized tribes” is referring to the five Native American tribes, the Cherokee, Choctaw, Creek, Chickasaw, and Seminole. These tribes were considered “civilized” because they had adopted many customs of the white society and had good relations with their neighbors. These tribes were relocated from their homes east of the Mississippi River to the Indian Territory, now Oklahoma. This removal was part of the Trail of Tears of 1838.


Creek, which came from the shortening of “Ocheese Creek” Indians, were originally named Muskogee. They lived in villages in river valleys throughout what are today the states of Tennessee, Georgia, and Alabama. After the War of 1812, some Creek leaders signed numbers of treaties that ceded more lands to Georgia. The Creek established a law that made land cessions a capital offense. However, on February 12, 1825, William McIntosh and other chiefs signed the Treaty of Indian Springs, which gave up most of the remaining Creek lands in Georgia. Some believed he was bribed to sell out his people; others thought that he realized that the Creeks were going to lose their lands eventually, and he got the best possible deal for them. After the ratification of the treaty by the U.S. Senate, Creeks led by Menawa assassinated McIntosh. The Creeks had been forced from Georgia, however, there were still about 20,000 Upper Creeks living in Alabama. A treaty was signed in 1832 that opened a large portion of their land to white settlement, but guaranteed the Creeks protected ownership of the remaining portion of the land that was divided among the leading families. The government did not protect them from speculators, who cheated them out of their lands. Violence broke out, leading to the “Creek War of 1836.” The war was ended by forcibly removing the Creeks to the Indian Territory west of the Mississippi River.


The Chickasaws are originally from present-day Mississippi, now mostly living in Oklahoma. They are related to the Choctaws, who speak a similar language, forming the Western Group of the Muskogean languages. After the Indian Removal Act in 1830, the Chickasaw ceded their land east of the Mississippi in 1832 and agreed to remove to the Indian Territory. They signed a treaty, which stated that the federal government would provide them until they moved. However, it backed down on its promise. They were forced to pay the Choctaws for the right to live on part of their western allotment. They migrated in the winter of 1837-1838.


The Choctaws were organically from the southeast United States, such as Mississippi, Alabama, and Louisiana of the Muskogean linguistic group, like the Chickasaws. They were the first to sign a removal treaty, in 1830. Some chose to stay in Mississippi under the terms of the Removal Act. However, land-hungry whites squatted on Choctaw territory and cheated them out of their holdings. Soon, most of the remaining Choctaws, fed up of mistreatment, sold their land and moved west. They were organized as the Choctaw Nation of Oklahoma. In 1831, tens of thousands of Choctaw walked 800km to Oklahoma and many died.


The Seminoles are originally from Florida. A small group of Seminoles was forced into signing a removal treaty in 1833, but the majority of the tribe declared the treaty to be illegitimate and refused to leave. The result was the Seminole War, lasting from 1835 to 1842. Thousands of lives were lost in the war, which cost the Jackson administration 40 to 60 millions of dollars, ten times the amount it had allotted for Indian removal. In the end, most of the Seminoles moved to the new territory in Oklahoma. For those who remained, they defended themselves in the Third Seminole War in 1855-1858, when the U.S. military tried to drive them out. At last, the United States paid the remaining Seminoles to move west.


The Cherokees originated from Southeastern United States. They were tricked with an illegitimate treaty. A small fraction agreed to sign a removal agreement, the Treaty of New Echota. The leaders of the group were not the recognized leaders of the Cherokee nation, and over 15,000 Cherokees signed a petition in protest. Their demands were ignored by the Supreme Court and ratified the treaty in 1836. The Cherokee were given two years to migrate voluntarily. By 1838, only 2,000 had migrated and 16,000 remained on their land. The U.S. government sent 7,000 troops, who forced the Cherokees into stockades. They were not allowed time to gather belongings, and as they left, whites looted their homes. This began the Cherokees’ march known as the Trail of Tears, in which 4,000 Cherokees died of cold, hunger, and disease on their way to the western lands.


www.ngeorgia.com/history/creek.html


http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/aia/part4/4p2959.html


http://www.tolatsga.org/Cherokee1.html


http://www.dickshovel.com/Cherokee1.html


www.wikipedia.org



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crystal

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in reference to the Supreme Court decision, i'm understanding that they supported the Cherokee?
i seem to have differing information.

but over all, we have similar information.


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In response to Brandi’s question - Even though both the Chickasaws and the Choctaws fought on the Confederate side I do not think it had anything to do with their perspective on signing a removal treaty and being less resistant unlike the three other tribes - Cherokee, Creek, and Seminole. Through the information that I found and from what I have read I feel as if all five tribes whether resistant or not did feel strongly on keeping what was rightfully theirs. In my opinion, the Chickasaws and Choctaws decided to sign the treaty because they not only saw the removal as inevitable as I had stated before but also because when they made an attempt to stay put they were cheating out of their holding by land-hungry whites. Also, when these tribes signed these removal treaties they were promised that the federal government would provide suitable western land and would protect them. Unfortunately, they backed down on their promise and both tribes were forced out of their land. On the other hand, the Cherokee, Creek, and Seminole had the willpower to fight the system that was taking away what they believed to be not only their land but their flourishing culture as well. Yes, many of their people died during the Seminole Wars, but once again these tribes believed in fighting for what was theirs. Just like African Americans, slaves, and women, these people were discriminated and treated like children, they wanted their freedom that they had earned and the land that they had worked for. I wish I could better explain their motives, but I wasn’t there myself - thank god! LoL.




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6. Show how the Whigs turned the Democrats’ own political techniques against them in the “log-cabin and hard-cider” campaign of 1840.

Democrats in the election of 1840 used the “log-cabin and hard-cider” tactic expecting that it would turn voters away from the Whig party. They thought voters would view Whigs as uneducated politicians who would not take political office seriously. Referring to the Whigs as “log-cabin and hard-cider” began when a Democratic newspaper said that William Henry Harrison, the Whig candidate for president, would be happy with “a barrel of hard cider, and … a pension of two thousand [dollars] a year… and … he will sit the remainder of his days in his log cabin.” Democrats expected this to hurt the Whigs’ political cause, but the Whigs used it to their advantage. They used it to remind people of a time when they still lived in log cabins, used log cabins as schoolhouses and churches, it ultimately strengthened the image the voters had of the Whig party. The Whigs used the log cabin as their slogan in order to portray themselves as if they were just like the common man. The Whigs used this slogan to take a different approach toward Harrison, who was not “of the common man” at all; he owned a sixteen-room mansion and came from a wealthy Virginia family. They created songs in order to give the appearance that they were similar to the common man, although Harrison was not at all. They also used their common man approach against the Democrats, by portraying Martin Van Buren, the Democratic nominee for president, as a wealthy snob who cared little for the common people. Van Buren though, did in fact come from poor, working class family. Despite the fact that Van Buren had come from much of the same upbringing as a majority of the people in the United States, he was blamed for the economic depression of 1837 and was seen as indifferent to the struggles of the average citizen. This view of the Democrats helped the Whigs win the popular vote and 79% of the electoral votes. The Democrats plan of using the "log cabin and hard cider" to take votes away from the Whigs ultimately hurt them and made the Whigs appear to be more familiar to the lives of the average American.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Log_Cabin_Campaign
http://www.heritagepursuit.com/Union/Unp3c12.htm
http://scriptorium.lib.duke.edu/americavotes/


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Alex Z.

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Krystal F. wrote:



William Henry Harrison was the first Whig to campaign for office.  He and vice president nominee John Tyler had a slogan- “Tippecanoe and Tyler too.” This referred to Harrison’s victory over Shawnee Indians at an Ohio river.  Some Democrats made fun of Harrison because he was old to be president.  In one of the Democratic newspapers it said to just give him a barrel of hard cider and he’ll live the rest of his life in a log cabin. 


The Whigs then called Harrison the “log cabin and hard cider candidate.”  They also said that his Democratic opponent Martin Van Buren was a rich snob, when in reality, he came from a poor family.  Harrison was really the rich one.


In the end, the Whigs proved to be well-accomplished campaigners, because Harrison won the election.  He and the Whigs turned the Democrats’ words around to defeat them tremendously.   


                                                                                   _Krystal 





Direct and to-the-point, very nice Krystal! I just have 2 quick questions: (a) How did Harrison feel about being called the "log-cabin and hard-cider" candidate? and (b) Was Harrison's wealth a factor in his victory? because the way you said it I was thinking Van Buren was going to win

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The Cherokee Indians live in pretty small communities, mostly near river bottoms with rich soil. Each village had about 50 log and mud huts grouped around the center of the town, called the Council House. That was where ceremonies and public meetings were held. The council house was seven-sided to represent the seven separate tribes of Cherokee: Bird, Paint, Deer, Wolf, Blue, Long Hair, and Wild Potato. White settlers began to arrive and the Cherokee culture began to see changes; good and bad. Many Cherokee died of disease and also war brought on by white settlers. They were also manipulated into signing away a great deal of their land. On the positive side, the Cherokees began to pick up some of the characteristics of the white culture. They developed their own democratic government with a chief, vice chief, and 32 council members who were elected by the members of the tribe. They also created their own constitution and code of laws. A silversmith named Sequoyah invented a writing system, and within two years almost every Indian could read and write. They also began publishing their own newspaper. After a few years, the Cherokee Indians were considered the most civilized tribe.


 


 In 1828, gold was discovered on Cherokee territory. Andrew Jackson, wanting this gold, established the Indian Removal Act in 1830. They were to be forcibly moved east of the Mississippi river to Oklahoma and surrounding territory, soon to be known as Indian Territory. About 14,000 Cherokees began that painful, six-month journey. About 4,000 of them died of cold, hunger, and disease. Altogether, about 100,000 natives, from the Five Civilized Tribes (Cherokee, Chickasaw, Seminole and Choctaw) survived the journey. The Cherokee Indians now live in peace, but will never forget the pain and suffering their ancestors went through.


 


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jay

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forgot my source


http://smokymtnmall.com/mall/cindians.html



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Amanda

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Kristen wrote:


The Whigs, who wanted to give the public what they wanted, took advantage of this statement and declared that Harrison was “the log cabin and hard cider candidate.”  They said that he was a man of the common people from the rough-and-tumble West.  They also depicted Van Buren as a wealthy snob who was out of touch with the people.  This in fact was false and neither portrayal was accurate.    Harrison came from a wealthy and prominent family and had many aristocratic qualities while Van Buren was from a poor, hard working family who was a firm believer in Democratic values.  The Whigs in this election used this statement as propaganda to help them win the election.  In fact they did they did win the election by a landslide in the electoral votes, which were 234 for Harrison and 60 for Van Buren, but the popular vote was close, which was 1,275,612 for Harrison and 1,130,033 for Van Buren. 


 


 







Do you think that the political tactics of the Whigs in the election of 1840 could have worked just as well for the Democrats, if they had tried to show that they truly had more in common with the average citizen, rather than trying to just hurt the Whig's cause?

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Assignments due today.

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David Souza

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David Souza     AP U.S. History     2-304  A      Ch. 13, Q6


6. Show how the Whigs turned the Democrats’ own political techniques against them in the “log-cabin and hard-cider” campaign of 1840.


For the election of 1840, the Whigs had nominated William Henry Harrison for president and John Tyler for vice president. The Democrats chose President Martin Van Buren to run for re-election. Harrison at the time was 67, and the Democrats tried to say he was too old to run for president. The Democrats called him “granny”, meaning he was senile. The Democrats also attacked Harrison in their newspaper saying, "Give him a barrel of hard cider, and ... a pension of two thousand [dollars] a year ... and ... he will sit the remainder of his days in his log cabin." Harrison used what the Democrats said about him as his campaign slogan saying this made him like the common people. Harrison also said he was from the west and called Van Buren a wealthy snob. The panic of 1837 occurred during Van Buren’s presidency causing great suffering for those left with the worthless paper money. Harrison said to the American people this happened because Van Buren was a wealthy snob and he allowed it happen because he did not care for them, accusing Van Buren of losing contact with the common people. In reality, Harrison was the one who was wealthy and did not care about the common people, and Van Buren came from poor lower class people like most all the other Americans. The Whigs ran with the Democrats’ accusation and spun it around to make Harrison look like a common person, and so he would look out for common people. Van Buren lost the presidency because of the panic of 1837 and having Harrison call him a wealthy snob who did not care for the common people. In the end, Harrison won the presidency, but died while only office for a month of pneumonia.


 


 


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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Log_Cabin_Campaign



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Butchie

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Curt: Do you agree with how the indians were treated?
If you could do something different what would you do?
What could the indian tribes have done so they weren't moved to another territory?



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David Souza

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Makeda wrote:



The election of 1840 was between Martin Van Buren and William Henry Harrison. Van Buren being the Democrats choice and Harrison the Whigs. Both parties tried to blacken each other’s candidates name in many different ways. The Whigs, for example, renamed Martin Van Buren “Martin Van Ruin.” One Democratic reporter called Harrison “ a poor farmer who should be content with a pension, a log cabin and a barrel of hard cider” as a way to insult the western candidate. The Whigs turned this around and portrayed Harrison as a hardworking farmer who was for the poor man. They said he was there to cleanse the white house of Jackson’s corrupt spoils men. The Whigs served cider at rallies to get people to like Harrison more. They also decided not to write an official platform, as a way to gain more votes. Some supporters of the Whig party, to discredit Van Buren, wrote poems about his aristocratic lifestyle and drew pictures of him choking on hard cider. In the end Harrison was victorious, beating Van Buren with an electoral margin of 234 to 60.





Makeda,


When you said: The Whigs, for example, renamed Martin Van Buren “Martin Van Ruin.”  What did Van Buren ruin?


Secondly, when you also said: The Whigs turned this around and portrayed Harrison as a hardworking farmer who was for the poor man. They said he was there to cleanse the white house of Jackson’s corrupt spoils men.


Who are the corrupt men that they are claiming to cleanse?


 


Great post though!  You showed me some info. I did not know...thanks!



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Curt wrote:




Q.10) Provide more material on the “Five Civilized Tribes”, partically the Cherokees, and discuss their fate during and after the “Trial of Tears”.


 


         The Five Civilized Tribes of Native Americans were the Cherokee, Chicasaw, Choctaw, Creek and Seminoles. These tribes were considered civilized because they developed some of the white man’s  customs. Some became farmers of plantations and others became artisans of certain crafts. The most information we have from the lives of these nations during this time is from the Cherokee tribe. The Cherokees actually tried hard to mix in with the Southern cultures. Many of them began adopting their methods of lifestyle, work and religion (to an extent). Then there were troubles between the natives and the whites because the natives land where they were on were supposedly said to contain gold and had rich fertile soil for the cash crops grown in the South.


         In the court case The Cherokee Tribe v. The State of Georgia it is ruled that the natives have the right to their land but they will not be defended by any American soilders. From then on the natives were harassed and attacked by many whites to scare them off their own land. Finally Andrew Jackson passed his Indian Removal Act which was passed in Congress in 1830. The army then gave the natives two choices: leave the land in peace or be forced to leave. Many of the Native Americans were actually were actually raided by U.S. soilders and from their they were forced to leave on their way to this unknown land made for them.


         Along this Trial of Tears to the newly chartered Indian Territory, many of the native people died of starvation and disease. When they all settled on the new land it commenced 15 years of civil war between all Cherokee nations. From the survivors of the civil war between their own nation either got involved with the California Gold Rush and from their the Civil War. This occurred with many of the other tribes as well. Conflict arose due to the change of enviorment and along with the mixture of the Indian culturesd as a whole. These tribes also took place in the Civil War (Confederates) and created their own type of tribal government. The removal of the Native Americans severly devistated their tribes in the ways they lived before their removal and the lifestyles they now had to deal with after the removal. In conclusion the the removalof the Five Civil Tribes ruined their tribal ways in their own lands nad made them attempt to adapt to this new land where many problems arose for the tribes removed.


 

Samuel Carter, author of Cherokee Sunset, writes: "Then ... there came the reign of terror. From the jagged-walled stockades the troops fanned out across the Nation, invading every hamlet, every cabin, rooting out the inhabitants at bayonet point. The Cherokees hardly had time to realize what was happening as they were prodded like so many sheep toward the concentration camps, threatened with knives and pistols, beaten with rifle butts if they resisted." Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherokee




Was the Indian removal act politically just? consider the court cases like Cherokee vs. the State of Georgia and the Amendments  to the states.


-i think personally you did a great job writing it try writing more on the American opinion on this topic too also what were the conflicts that the indian removal caused the indians to have?explain more thougroughly



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